The smell is definitely originated from my mind. Taste is perceived by the taste buds that are located on the tongue and by sending unique signals to the brain, helps us distinguish between various tastes. Yes, pungent, musty, sweet would be words to describe it. Vascular dementia and neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s disease, can trigger a condition called dysgeusia. No luck. It was a short time. I got some research to do based on this. And to a handful of people. This was a few years ago. NAMI has chapters across the US. https://annemoss.com/contact-2/submit-a-story/. Dogs know when someone is about to have a seizure so I am betting there is a change of scent there too. My friend couldn’t seem to be happy no matter what, and it lasted for decades, and he tried just about everything to find some sort of happiness. This morning we try to talk about it a little bit but he still seemed down. I remember when i was young my mom had a smell like you described, i just thought that is how she smells, but she stopped smelling like that a while ago, I stay with my bf now and the last few weeks he has been smelling like she did, at first i thought that i might be imagining that, but i had a dream about it that it might be depression. I thought I was going nuts, too. Other causes include: Phantosmia brought on by a sinus condition or other temporary health problem will usually disappear when your condition improves. I’ve looked for this answer for so long, and this is the first time I’ve found something that makes some sense and seems to fit. I, too, thought it was a side effect of drugs or medication. My brain can’t work well any more. I think I will really make an effort to do this. I hope you will ot are getting treatment for depression. He diagnosed me with depression/anxiety and put me on Lexapro, and later we added Cymbalta. We need each other I haven’t heard that one Christine. You go Sarah. Sugar-free gum or mints may help. This left me with the conclusion that I’m producing something that some people can smell, and those that do smell it usually smell it as something negative. Smelling an odor that might not be real? We rarely notice, of course, because when the vagina has a balanced pH level the odor remains largely consistent and indiscernible. What you described is exactly what I smelled on my friend and my brother. My “illness” is that of ocd, psychosis (schizophrenia) and olfactory reference syndrome (falls under the ocd category). I asked if it was his deodorant and he did not know what I was talking about. It may be stuck in a gray cloud but it’s very much alive. Sweet and pungent. Sadly, it happens. Take Care Debbie . I went back today because he went manic again and ran off. I firmly believe that depression does have a smell, else it was something that I still do not know. Instead of connecting the smell directly to the emotion, the more likely culprit IMHO is an underlying disorder that causes both depression and the smell, which means the smell could be extremely important to research, not just as a biomarker but as a potential vector for treatment. 10. There are several suspects for metallic body odor. I totally think smell is plausible for this. Just sort of sweet and pungent. And I’m reaching my wits end. It happens too in my counselling session often (via zoom cos covid) warm or cold days… just chatting and after I often change… at least my undergarments and tshirt… I’ve had blood tests for peri menopause/hormone level and…. I will say that I find those who suffer depression to have some pretty amazing gifts. This is an actual phenomenon. I’m so sorry for the loss of your father It just sucks when you’re the stinky guy and there seems to be literally nothing you can do about it. She said the same thing I did. This study of 353 people with unexplained body odor problems found that 118 (33%) of them had TMAU. I keep asking my 16-year old if she is depressed which she always denies, but there are way too many signs pointing to it. She has always had depression but over the last 18 months has been diagnosed with bipolar, we’ve had a good year (after a stint in the psych ward) but just yesterday I was with her and the scent has reappeared, she knows I can smell the scent and we often talk about it. When I don’t have thoughts on smell which is highly rare but I’m working on getting better my panic is 0 and I am 100% zen calm. I do think it’s different for everyone depending on their senses. I don’t know what boss lady said to her friend, my counselor. Skin Concerns. I just came home to go into this rabbit hole of finding out what others have also experienced! That’s exactly the way I see it. I’m a female, almost 30, and I have lost many friends and jobs because of this, which has only exacerbated my depression and anxiety even further. Finally some clue to where this pungent smell around my husband coming from. I was diagnosed as chronically depressed they tried multiple medications I finally gave up and just decided I was gonna have to be all right. It comes when I have the types of depressive episodes where I cry a lot (and not the one’s where I feel numb a lot). Gas smells like rotten eggs. Why is there not more information about this out there? Anyway thankyou fir making me laugh about the “Ham sandwich” first time ive smiled in a long time. The odor we recognize as a metallic smell is actually the smell of our body's. I smelled that on myself going through severe depression several years ago and I smell it during every reoccurrence. But knowing would have helped to have an open conversation. I’ve suffered with this for many years and like you, I always bathe, but to no avail . It’s titled “Chemosignals Communicate Human Emotions” and it was really interesting to read if you want to go check it out. I always thought it was just his unique odor. I am most certain that mental illnesses cause the body so much trouble ADHD I noticed has more asthma and depression and bipolar has physical side effects body pains and digestive issues There is no doubt our brains are wired so differently than normal people who do suffer from mental illness And I’ve always been a bloodhound for even the most minute gas or sewer leaks. Last medically reviewed on September 21, 2020, A metallic taste in your mouth is a type of taste disorder. I’m definitely swearing more, having hot flashes when the anxiety or sadness amps up, so I don’t know if that’s the cause or not. My oldest son (16) has a very strong musty odor and refuses to take medication for his anxiety. For this purpose I am looking for donations and people who could help me in my mission. Hi John, I can’t help but necropost in reply to this because I am in the exact same situation. That exact sweet-sour scent I pick up on my wife on occasion, who suffers from severe depression. You bathe regularly, wear deodorant or an antiperspirant, don absorbent clothing and even eat a balanced diet.But there's one place you haven't thought to look yet: the medicine cabinet. I think you are right that different people smell different things and those closest to us find it more pleasant. There has to be more people that can pick up on this?? I first noticed it on family members but now I am smelling it on friends and even on students in my class. I shower every day before heading out. I have lived with her depression since 2011 – I can no longer live with her and it – It’s all too life consuming and as a result suffering with high blood pressure myself. So many times I would pass by Charles’ room and sometimes I would notice a smell. Thanks for this. I smelt it on a friend and I was ignorant and thought it was just not enough deodorant but it’s a smell that I have had enough or I’m too tired, just tired. No one else could smell it but he could. Just imagine how it would be to have to go out into public every day, knowing that you have an “odor” that you can’t beat. A 40-year-old member asked: What causes body odor? I didn’t know that there were people who could pick the scents up on other people. I hope you find treatment that works. I recently rented a room to a new roomie, within a day I could smell this heavy, musky vanilla smell that makes me want to gag. And I think they smell our moods. And some of us have sensitive enough olfactory glands to pick it up. I had never thought of it as a sweet smell, before, but I guess that is as good of a description as any. I get a lot of information from scents, … The past couple years the episodes have become worse even on medication. I would imagine it is distinctive to others though. It could be phantosmia. It’s useful, but annoying! I have PTSD and just realized that my odor changes with my mental state… if I’m doing good I don’t smell as bad. Improving your dental hygiene and treating gum disease or any other dental health problem should make the metallic taste disappear. body odor Gas Gastrointestinal disorders General health maintenance Gout Headache High blood pressure Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) Improved mental state Influenza Insomnia [web.archive.org] Plus and Minus Icon Nutrient deficiencies including deficiencies in calcium, vitamin B12 , and protein; anemia and malabsorption could also result from metabolic diets. How painful and frustrating for you. No one else could smell it but I could. So why wouldn’t this apply to those who live with a mental illness as well. I would like to talk more if you or anyone else is interested, though I know that I am posting at quite a later date than the majority of people here. Others have mentioned, and they’re right, if someone isn’t dealing with this, then they can’t possibly know. Chocolate odor. My best friend who committed suicide had that smell. If you want help let me know and I will try to help you find resources. I was doing some research and I found an article posted in the Journal of Psychology in 2012 that did an experiment on chemosignals. But it was like a weight was always on his back, that he just couldn’t ever shake, no matter what. Wow! That is so fascinating. My daughter is bipolar and she always had this very sweet smell to her and I could never figure out what it was. Thank you. Certain medical conditions can cause body odor that are out of our control. Purely negative too. That’s it. That’s where I smelled it the most. Generic Name: adalimumab Medically reviewed by Drugs.com. I’m surprised that there isn’t more out there about this. I think its got something to do with my Autonomic System not working right. Every small step accounted for a breakthrough relief. She’s just rude and needs a session of manners camp. It was almost like an aura for a migraine. I’ve struggled with depression for years and, It was first in my bed side draw. Certain medications and dental appliances may trigger a metallic body odor… When I went to hug him before I left that night, he smelled normal again. Depression (see note) 23. After putting 2 and 2 together, I could smell this odour before he felt the episode and we could take preventative measures such as put care procedures in place for when his crisis hit. I’d love for them to do a study on this. Thank you for sharing your story. A few months ago I was yet again put in a horrible situation that is not wrapping up anytime soon. I smell metallic breath or body odor on people frequently. But we do. For example, the most noticeable signs and sym… I’ve noticed this, too. People who reach this level of depression can go weeks at a time without bathing or showering. It lasted all day and into the night. I’m a 17 yr old girl who has delt with depression since god knows how long. I too have had a double blow my bipolar 2 disease and the death of my daughter March of 2017 she was 24 And in addition, your commitment to being the best you can be in impressive. I don’t want it to get to that point with my second daughter, but, yes, that distinctive smell is there. You introduce some new and interesting points. I am so glad you wrote from your heart. It would be nice if science put these noses to work and test out WHY. How interesting. Amazing Loy hard. From : Sarah I actually was trying to find if other people could smell mental illness on others. Because the smell is harvested in my mind any smell that my mind has processed can be outwardly and inwardly projected. And again it doesn’t need to be a bad smell but when someone is trapped in one place for soooo long. You could mostly smell it on my sheets. Thank you for sharing your thoughts H. Appreciated. My husband suffers severe depression and anxiety. I appreciate I’m coming to this late, but was googling to find out if anyone else experienced this! I’m still researching a remedy for this, but people who have never been through this don’t know it’s PURE HELL . Probably the depression. One such compound in particular, called 1-octen-3-one, which is found in the vapours above skin touched by iron, is particularly smelly. Hello I have noticed this with my husband as well who is Bipolar, it took me many years to place it into context. They include various bacteria and yeasts that live on sweat, and they include various toxic metals that actually have a smell to them. I have been worried that he may be physically unwell too because of this characteristic smell but guess this is just his mental state. I think I smelled it too. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerdooley/2012/11/08/people-can-smell-emotions/#6ecdf40f66b2, I believe I have experienced this. I personally did not find it unpleasant but that depends on the person. If he is not being treated for depression you/he can ask for a psychological evaluation to get to the root of the issue. Though that wouldn’t account for other people smelling another’s depression. I would just add that I wasn’t going through their things, I just saw the medication bottles and was curious. Learn how your comment data is processed. Something was WRONG. Also, 44% sought non-psychiatric treatment for their perceived body odor, including visits to gastroenterologists, dentists, and dermatologists. 'Metallic' Odor Of Iron, Iron-containing Water, And Blood Derives From Skin Oil Decomposition Date: October 18, 2006 Source: John Wiley & Sons, Inc. I never found it unpleasant. When he was going through his episodes and I found hidden vodka bottles I assumed the smell was the vodka. She is my main contact there. Hormonal changes brought on by pregnancy can trigger many unusual symptoms. I smell depression too. I have been arguing with my peer support person over this. But it was only me. Showering once and twice a day and soaping all of our body parts and bouncing and behaving hair is : normal Depression kills normal it is as bad as this , the daily shower and dressing routine He was psychiatrically treated and 3 years ago killed himself. I can smell when my husband is depressed. Now, I’m not well-to-do, and the medical coverage I have will only do so much. I asked him if it something happened or if it was just general. It has used up all the glucose in your blood and attacks your fat stores. But if you notice a metallic or ammonia-like smell on your sweat, it may be due to what you’re not eating. But Charles didn’t smoke things in his room. In real terms my mind is off key with this whole idea about smells. That’s it. Thank you for your comment and information. She said she knew he was in a depressive state prior to it happening because she could smell it. I think I should have been told in advance, and not find out by accident. That is exactly what I think. Weirdly enough, I have started smelling it from myself lately! I also have an alcohol substance abuse problem. At first, I thought it might be drug related. Definitely. And the fact that you didn’t smell it on yourself when you were on Zoloft. He was suffering badly and probably was weary from doing so Let me know what’s worrying you about it. Washing your hands with soap and water is often enough to make the metallic smell go away. This is how I figured out it was actually mentally related. It was very different. Yet, it took me YEARS to realize that what I was smelling was depression. And she’s not rejecting you. Im a little alarmed, not sure what to do, been googling a connection between her meds and her odor. I thought he was still drinking. Thank you for bringing this subject up about smell and depression. Guess who my counselors best buddy was? I would love for them to do a study on all this. It makes sense. I also could smell it on very few customers when I use to work at a resort, and often thought if they were in the same boat as my mum. There are no studies on this that I know of. Funny there is so little information on this topic. I suffered from terrible bad breath for many years and eventually was told by my dentist that my tonsils were infected. Sally- I, too, was the only one who could smell it. I suffer from depression and anxiety. My former partner, would emit a strong sweet, but acrid very distinctive smell before going into a bad depression and anxiety crisis requiring medical intervention. I lived with her (with my single mother) when I was very young…. And loss of a relationship is also a grief process. I think it was a sign from my deceased son. Ruby that’s remarkable that you have sensed this on so many. Just that the onset of the depressive symptoms triggers the odor (for lack of a better word.) When I was younger I used to describe it by saying that I could smell and taste the neurotransmitters firing in my brain, but nobody ever believed me. My husband sympathetic it only down yesterday when I asked if something was wrong he said I don’t know. I know this was a blow and it’s so unprofessional. This page here is a research project in and of itself. Either way I looked this up as well (a few months ago) bc I too was interested to find out if it indeed was even a “thing”. What I smelled was more of a sweet smell with kind of a dirty laundry scent. Electric shock sensation under the skin and in the head (see note) 30. The Causes and Symptoms of Dehydration in Older Adults, Types of Body Fat: Benefits, Dangers, and More, Daniel Bubnis, M.S., NASM-CPT, NASE Level II-CSS, fenoprofen (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug), a metallic or other unpleasant taste in the mouth, neurodegenerative disease, such as Parkinson’s disease or Alzheimer’s disease. So much still left unanswered, always will be but little bits of I’m not alone. Thank you, Anne Moss Rogers, for bringing this community together and this issue to light. Interesting about the hot flashes. They smell like a dead body- recently dead body, like a day or two. My partner of 2 years has a history of self-medicating with alcohol when severely anxious and depressed. So I think there are some smells we humans can smell and others we can’t. Some people are aware of this and will tell us they smell sort of metallic. I got your message by email. I have a friend who can smell when I’m having a depressive episode. This last one has been the worse. While a metallic smells cause may be benign, it’s worth investigating in case a serious underlying condition is present. My wife also tells me when I “smell sad” and she usually detects this first thing in the morning. I am on antidepressant pills for six years with less or no improvements in depression. I suspected it was a scent that came and went too. Thank you so much for your comment. In other words, a metallic taste bad breath symptom may be somewhat imaginary, and should be confirmed by obtaining an objective second opinion. The reality is I can smell myself when my thoughts run haywire and when my panic levels reaches a peak. I’ve given up on trying to fix it by showering several times per day, changing the sheets, all of it as it would be some strange body odor I could get rid of. I decided to not seek a counselor ever again. It’s not a matter of me figuring anything out. Thank you for sharing on this thread S. Very helpful. I’m going to look up the apocrine glands. Our vaginas smell – all the time. Learn more about this diet, the chemical basis behind it and some … It’s a smell that can’t be distinguished, its like a musty-sweet-pungent,like a fungal something. Two months later he feels lower then before and has developed a body odor that is horrible. While those who struggle with mental illness might have a scent when in a depressive state, it’s usually not a consistent thing although little is known about it. I would have to drive 70 miles to see a counselor. That is so fascinating. To me it makes sense.. everything is connected. That is so incredible. I finally said something and he was alarmed and said that he does not smell it on himself. The good news is your roommate is taking medication and managing the condition. I learn from every comment. Let me know how I can support you. If that doesn’t do the trick, try scrubbing your hands with a paste made of baking soda and vinegar and then washing them again with soap and water. For the first time in many months I was in the car with him today and it was overwhelming. She struggled for many years and fought hard in her mental illness. My condolences for the loss of your son. I can be in the middle of a distressed crying-session, but as soon as I catch a whiff of that particular smell, I panick and stop crying because it truly bothers me such. Didn’t think much of it. All my panic stems from this smell idea. Thank you so so much for the update and it’s so kind of you to drop by and do that. Do you use any oil in your hair? My wife, parents and friends agree this. The scent is less offensive to those who know you and care about you. Wow. Refocusing my energy is the best way for me to deal with it. These stink-stopping shirts are made with Odor Shield™ technology, a natural non-toxic hydrogen peroxide-based solution that eliminates 99.9% of odor … And a smell about me appeared immediately. Melinda you are to be commended for trying to open up the conversation with your daughter. Tag: metallic body odor Does depression have a smell? I’ve smelled it in other people’s houses before. I need this website Wow. Most could not even smell it. I can still smell it in some pieces of clothes after him even after multiple washing. And that’s what I am going with. Searches on google to this post account for about 12 per month. Scientists have found that dozens of illnesses have a particular smell: Diabetes can make your urine smell like rotten apples, and typhoid turns body odor into the smell of baked bread. Periodontitis (gum disease), as well as gingivitis (a form periodontitis that causes gum inflammation) and an infected tooth all can cause a metallic smell on your breath. And she could tell when he was over it because it would then be gone. That was our experience. I haven’t told anyone else about this and am wondering what your thoughts might be. Open the window to air it out. Most women experience some physical or emotional symptoms when they reach menopause, which is typically in their early fifties, though it can occur at any age between 35 and 59. Thank you so much for commenting. It smells like old sweat or if you did a batch of laundry and did not put it in the dryer for days. I just wondered because it seemed like it must have been working for you and I’m curious why you may have titrated off of it. It’s good to know others can smell distinctive smells with a range of mental illness. Thanks to you all for sharing. Learn why this strange sensory change is happening…. This is a professional saying this. Unusual but not entirely unpleasant. Everyone says I am just fine… even my picky nose dad. she was my world ,my main carer when my mam worked and when she was sick the house was not full, not empty just different. I only recently, finally, made the connection to her depressive episodes. :/. I think you need to write a letter to schizophrenia for this site! For me, the scent was not unpleasant, just curious. Do understand that it’s not always an unpleasant smell to the rest of us. She can only smell it when I am in a depressive episode, not when I’m just sad. I have left several jobs due to comments on my odor. I get days where I can wake up for about two hours and just go back to bed. Here's what you need to know. Thank you for commenting. Have for a long, long time. I can’t remember how it came up, but I realized I could smell before depression would hit her. I must have asked 15 people. You’ve helped me confirmed what I thought was a crazy theory I’ve had for two weeks now. I smelled a sweet smell but if you read all these comments, it varies. As if being depressed wasn’t enough. Currently I drench myself in perfume when I get up and when I go to bed at night. The unpleasant taste can develop suddenly or over longer periods of time. It comes and goes depending on how low he feels. After all, who really wants to work next to the stinky guy? And that’s not the worst of it. My sense of smell is not always discerning because of allergies. I can’t explain it. Regards It seems to be more apparent when in a depressive episode. That’s the smell. Im glad i found this, I think there is definitely something to this. Usually only service dogs have a radar that fine tuned. At first I thought maybe he wasn’t showering as much but even within 12-24 hours of showering the smell is there. I certainly understand the swearing more. 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