The Jamaican Historical Review,X, 7-15. The Egyptian galleys that evolved into the various galleys used on the Mediterranean are fine for the Mediterranean, Red Sea, and coastal sailing but not for crossing oceans. This is a undeniable fact that we was lied to deliberately by governments we never wished to have or even made a deal with. (They completely mind fucked us y’all, but I’m serious). Just dig y’all. Africa and African civilization is NOT and was NOT as primitive as the the colonizers have led yall to believe. Orgins,Cultures , languages and history of people were all distorted. Taino, I can see that you are frustrated, and although I partly agree with your sentiment; your approach of “Bullshitting” things will not solve anything, but prove to be a catalyst for perpetuating them; so be calm, be rational and put meat on the bone, otherwise you end up being an ignorant Neanderthal; which you are not, but you are taking the lazy approach of trying to shut down discussion and opinions. He came to America in 1892. So many uneducated thoughts. There were no large animals native to the Caribbean, but they captured and ate small animals, such as hutias and other mammals, earthworms, lizards, turtles, and birds. Taíno staples included vegetables, fruit, meat, and fish. Ivan Van sertima not only DELIBERATELY referenced outdated sources that were outdated EVEN FOR HIS TIME but he also resorted to exclusively referencing the works and opinions of non-reputable pseudo scholars that had similar cultural-diffusionist agendas as he did. Further to which to speculate and say that black peoples existence in certain areas of the world was only due to the trans atlantic slave trade is absurd as; if you look at what is being told in many versions of history, it is apparent that no human could have survived being transported across the atlantic at sea in such conditions and virtually all would have died there are s many lies and mistruths throughout this part of history. At the time of Columbus’ arrival in 1492, there were five Taíno chiefdoms and territories on Hispaniola, each led by a principal Cacique (chieftain), to whom tribute was paid. Quick question, the article mentions that a group of Taino people ‘accompanied’ Columbus back to Spain. Moreover, the Tainos probably did not settle in central Cuba until after 1000, and there is no particular evidence that this was the route of the initial settlement of the Bahamas. It would explain why the pyramids here and the Egyptian dwelling in the grand canyon are hidden or torn down. But let’s focus on the arrivals of the Europeans. DNA studies of the whole genome have shown that all ancient remains tested are closely related or ancestral to all modern Native Americans, and skull shape is useless when trying to tie ancient populations by skull morphology only. It is a link to the irresistible forces of the universe which stand behind a man who does not deem in failure and defeat as being anything but temporary experiences “. 3. Brothers and Sisters on this Earth filled with energy and matter. Yes you all have many key points , there where high pigment humans in northwest amexem and south west amexem aka”americas” and also in the islands around them . I showed my mom a video from a South American Arawak group, covered the subtitles and she was able to understand it. Dr. Andrew Jackson, Sr. Thats Eastern China. Look at Kennewick Man, Naia, Luzia, Spirit Cave Man, Lovelock Skulls, Lago Santo Skulls. This confused and hurt me and I lived with self-loathing from many years. Studies proved that they were killed and pushed further into South America once the Mongaloids (Native Americans with Asian descent) migrated here toward the end of the ice age. I do not think my Taíno ancestors were black. Interestedn in Race, Ethnicity , Cultures and Diversity Inclusion in Schools White cats black cats. There are different shades of Taino, IMO, the Caribbean indigenous have the myelinated skin and those of similar latitudes due to their geographical positioning around the equator not all Arawak people have a wheatish complexion. and we are all a part of one big race – Humans. Peace x. while this conversation is kept at the end of the day it dosent even matter, but I get it, we all want to know what the origins of our ethnicity, and with that being said, I’ve never seen, saw, a white human being never, ever! The amount of pre slave trade African DNA found in South America is tiny. Afrocentrics idiots need to stop stealing others cultures. From beginning to end, his book is filled with word salad, storytelling, and poetic language that is meant to conjure up the imagination of uneducated people who would never cross reference his claims. I wanted to get to know more of the Taino heritage from this website, but there is so much divisiveness here. Alright , there is absolutely no reason why the Taino, Olmec, Chumash, Cherokee, Choctaw, Yamasee, Washitaw, and ALL other Native American, Indigenous, Aboriginal people are being classified as Black African people, by African American descendants of the African slaves!! The Caribs are believed to have migrated from the Orinoco River area in South America to settle in the Caribbean islands about 1200 AD, according to carbon dating [citation needed].Over the two centuries leading up to Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Caribbean archipelago in 1492, the Caribs mostly displaced the Maipurean-speaking Taínos by warfare, extermination, and assimilation. When did ‘Africa’ start being called Africa? And are very different in appearance to the present African and European population. Men wore loincloths and women wore aprons of cotton or palm fibres. and ENSLAVE my people!! So you can’t just make it up to suit your political agenda! That said back to the topic at hand black people have an erased history, stolen technologies, eradicated languages and so on under this email entries biased world we live in but fact is we are here in all our types, shapes and sizes all over this planet and wherever a European goes and “discovers” he finds either black people or traces of black people and it was frustrating to him so he implanted all these separatist ideas in the minds of people. I am an Aboriginal American and the proof is written across my face from generations of ancestors when I look in the mirror! 3. ALL of us will have had ancestors who were slaves as all cultures have practised slavery. It’s who we are now. You are absolutely right that no ethnic group or person is better than the next. Their world, which had its origins among the Arawak tribes of the Orinoco Delta, gradually spread from Venezuela across the Antilles in waves of voyaging and settlement begun around 400 B.C. existed prior to 1492. What about Italy pretty sure they got African in them too. it is definitely Afro-Latino! But so what, it wаs stiⅼl At the time of European contact in the late 15th century, they were the principal inhabitants of most of Cuba, Jamaica, Hispaniola (the Dominican Republic and Haiti), and Puerto Rico. Why those any other race have anything to say when this is sopuse to be about Tainos!!!!! No one is better than anyone because of skin color. Inter marriages, has brought about all these shaded of skin color etc. This article should not even be on this website. But If there was so its possible because the first who discovered America before Columbus was black from west Africa. Also I do not believe that black were the first race in the world ( all races exist at the same time and period). They also cultivated cotton, using it to weave fishing nets and sleeping hammocks. Humans live in groups and travel and have since the beginning of creation. I pray healing for our ancestors who endured were raped, sickened by disease and exploited by the hands of cruel human beings. We all God creation. I think that’s real history right there. So, let me say, many things, such as God, no God, Evolution, Special Design; Big Bang or God said, Let there be … , including the genesis of original people living in various places upon this planet, all depends, no upon what you can touch or see, but upon the principle of World Views. @TIGGY you statement about shades are incorrect as the definition of American in Websters Dictionary 1865 states, “The various copper-colored people that Europeans encountered when they came” just look at a copper penny. From Spain. Cuba, the largest island of the Antilles, was originally divided into 29 chiefdoms. the title derives from the word Taino…. It’s all about narrative. Hope we will change the world. Sheesh! Hebrew artifacts have been found all over the us, with a paleo Hebrew stone engraved with the 10 commandments. IF IN DOUBT, THINK ABOUT HOW A SMALL MINORITY OF WHITE SUPPRMACISTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PLUNDER THE EARTH’S MAJORITY PEOPLE OF COLOR FOR 500 YEARS ON THE BASIS OF ASSUMED INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY? Even if the Feb 26th correlation that he used for the Meshika New Year was correct, the MesoAmerican calendar model itself is oppositely different from the Egyptians’. I fathom that many did not have that source of learning. Instead, he chose to tell a story- one now constantly referenced by millions of pseudo scholars around the world but let’s get into some of its’ specifics…. Let me share with you the line up of the Grande Antilles. My grandfather was the ‘griot’ of our family along with other elders who told us about our history, for which I am grateful for. And I think it’s insane to believe so without proof since they document EVERYTHING. Puerto Rico also was divided into chiefdoms. I visited a museum while in Veracruz, Mexico and saw a picture framed document that stated the Egyptian sailed to that area 1000 years before Columbus. In the early 1900s Virginia made all darker Native-Americans declare to be Negro/Colored. Black people means Africans.. Black people inhabited the Americas before Africans ever came over here. Claypole, W. A. To say that there was open ocean trade between Africa and the Americas is a extraordinary claim with no extraordinary evidence to back it up. Recent research notes a high percentage of mixed or tri-racial ancestry among people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, with those claiming Taíno ancestry also having Spanish and African ancestry. I’m sure your friend, just like all the rest, family had been apart of the intermixing and colonialism to give them the appearance that they now have. But, I had to learn to embrace my appearance as an adult because of being teased that I “wasn’t black” as a child. Yet, Ivan Van Sertima did not care about any of this. Natives also tell stories of being visited by Atlanteans and why there is a strong native American I fluency in Africa as well as corn being from here and records of it being o we there pre Colombian era. A fourth, lesser known group went on to travel to Florida and divided into tribes. These children and…, Specials are made up of members of the public who volunteer their time to take on the duties…, Clifford Chance offers you the opportunity to join a global law firm with one of the most pre-eminent…, The Chiltern Training Group (CTG) was founded in 1993 by Challney High School for Boys and is a…, Over 300 years we’ve cultivated a reputation that inspires respect and built a business on expert insight and…, NTU is an organisation that wants you to be part of it. god bless all . They had long been on the defensive against the aggressive Carib people, who had conquered the Lesser Antilles to the east. Europeans have greater Neanderthal admixture than Africans who have barely any. Eurocentric education, history and bigotry have taught us that black means what they call “negroid” or Bantu with features like flat broad noses, thick tight curls (nappy hair) and full lips, but this is not the full description of black people in Africa, Australia ,the Americas or the world over. [1], A long way, you can finish step by step, and then you can’t reach without a foot. Taino is the language of the Arawaks (hence the words la(the) Taino) who occupied and still occupies the whole south of America. Both Black and White Americans are desperate for deep ties to the Americas, that they don’t have, along with a real ethnic American identity and heritage!! and there lays my Taino History! then what is ours when it comes to this side of the world?… the answer is nothing which keeps us in a lost state to have foreigners misguide and set up systems for us and our children to continuously work for them and their children. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). Beautiful truth and funny fact, here’s the funny part… They forgot to change the names of fruits and certain things are self implemented into the language they gave us to speak which is pigeoned. -Tainos settled near streams and rivers because: 1. What you were taught in school is false. And a vast amount of tribes were lost, stolen from our true land and given an identity to oppress, and control the masses. Smith, for example, not only believed that civilization originated from white rulers of Egypt and then spread throughout the world, but that certain races, such as aboriginals of Australia were racially inferior (Cooke). The truth is coming out about the history of the America…. All forms of rhythm become permanent with time. Both groups began establishing their culture in terms of social, economic and political organisation which showed signs of civilization existing in the Caribbean. Remember that when we die we don’t take our bodies with us, color means nothing!!! In the Bible (book of the living) that is mention when they say that god broke apart the lands and water was filled between them…, Nice to see Non black history being celebrated on BHM as well. Did this fortress just appeared where they are? Other than that AAs had a few generational European ancestors that showed up in their tree from1600’s-1900’s. The Taíno people, or Taíno culture, has been classified by some authorities as belonging to the Arawak, as their language was considered to belong to the Arawak language family, the languages of which were present throughout the Caribbean, and much of Central and South America. The Taino also made pottery, baskets, and implements of stone and wood. It is interesting that in this age of technology when so much information is at our fingertips we are still using divisive words to hurt others. With the exception of Northeast Africa and Egypt there is no evidence of a seafaring history. If those adopted World Views cannot reasonably and credibly shed light upon differences then, reasonably they they should be parked, revisited or abandoned and not become dogmas without reason. Independent Scholar The first Chinese,the first Japanese were also of African descent The peony of color are and always ha e been the dominant race whereas those lacking melanin are and have been the minority. The Tainos were known to have settled in the Greater Antilles, Jamaica including, bringing their culture with them. A very nice and informative article. While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. My great great grandfather on my mothers side is of Taino descent by way of Cuba who married a blackfoot Native American and had numerous children. Some believe that Atlantis was between Africa and the Americas before the ocean swallowed it up, thus a much shorter journey or boat ride. Just because the white Europeans have spread their white seed in the blacks and on their land does not prove that they were there first. Africa held the first high functioning civilization in the world, Ancient Kemet/Egypt. I personally don’t think Columbus had enough man power to show up with captured Arawaks to a land that was essentially over populated by the same people he had captured. Yes we all originated from Africa but between migrating and continents separating and shifting. I would love, when I have some more time, to read all the comments, made by passionate, more informed and less informed people; more skewed and less skewed ideas. Groups of people currently identify as Taíno, most notably among the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, both on the islands and on United States mainland. I am of majority African ancestry, with European ancestry as well and I just found out that I had a Taino ancestor from Cuba, that I never knew about! Conclusion. Sometimes people feel bad about certain things and are not comfortable with the status quo (woe) and so doggedly believes or embellishes that little which is known to establish a point, regardless of the ability to prove anything with certainty. Self-confident faith in one’s self is both the man-made weapon which defeats this devil and man-made tool which builds a triumphant life. Not genetically, biologically or scientifically as the world was developed at the time of their coming to power. You know the Arawaks and the Indians were already in Haiti when Christopher Columbus claimed he discover the new world. The Taino did not wear clothing, except for a small apron worn by married women; they lived in huts made of woven cane, round ones (bohios) for the general population, square ones (caneyes) for the caciques. Then I found out that the original name for America is literally turtle island. But such accidental crossings would have been a one way trip. Hmm….any way..we all.come from somewhere and taking unwillingly some where unknown but remember nature has it’s own way to draw you closer home if you pray and search your inner soul and ask for it. Of course they could survive the voyage across the Atlantic. Mingling with people already established in the Caribbean, they developed self-sufficient communities on the island of Hispaniola However, ethnic groups develop around priorities such as food, wealth seeking and resource envy; they go, they see, they conquer and take, and to justify doing those things they employ pseudo and lying scientists, who were and are politically motivated to promulgate false science , such as was done on a mass scale during the time of the fascists; it still goes on today through the education system. There are Africans in America, promoting false knowledge and telling you, that you came from Africa. On the other hand the Puerto Ricans are the ‘direct’ living descendants of the Arawak Taino. Africans are not Indians they African. FYI: Read THEY CAME BEFORE COLUMBUS by Ivan Van Sertima, i would agree with denise african americans were already here before slavery do to trades and such. Nabonassar simply came first because he had the oldest usable records. Black people civilized, peopled, educated and recorded for posterity the world. And until our destiny is fulfilled. Hatuey, a Taíno chieftain who had fled from Hispaniola to Cuba with 400 natives to unite the Cuban natives, was burned at the stake on February 2, 1512. They also had a complex social order, with a government of hereditary chiefs and subchiefs and classes of nobles, commoners, and slaves. The world in black and will one day return to black because white has proven very irresponsible, disrespectful and ignorant when it comes to preserving the world and caring for it’s people. Ancient Taino ppl were a pretty reddish brown or black complexion! No one really knows what color of skin the first person was or the third and so on. Enslavement, starvation, and disease reduced them to a few thousand by 1520 and to near extinction by 1550. -skin colour was olive, smooth and brown. As crazy as it sounds, I don’t find it far fetched and with a ton of research have found plenty of evidence corroborating what I’ve said. The revolt was suppressed by the Indio-Spanish forces of Governor Juan Ponce de León. Until this history is taught in Schools, Colleges and University Classrooms it will never be taught to families, babies, children and Adults but first the Teachers and Scholars have to share the history of Race, Ethnicity with Teacher Educators in all schools. The Taino had an elaborate system of religious beliefs and rituals that involved the worship of spirits (zemis) by means of carved representations. The psyche of blacks is raised. It’s as if an alien race from another planet had landed on earth and claimed every level of earth’s existence & its human and material reality as their own; claiming our extinction while making earth an alien-centric world, facilitated by “Alien Supremacy! We Negas are Taino or Arawak. Anyways, anyone wishing to ask questions…find us here! The Pangea theory is just not very credible. Most Black African Americans have on average 25% European autosomal DNA. Home > This system of labor was part of the ‘encomienda’- the strongest protecting the weak for the purpose of economic gain . Homeschool parent seeking any information regarding the Taino peoples of Saint Croix USVI. According to the Gladwin Thesis, this ancient journey occurred, particularly about 75,000 years ago and included Black Pygmies, Black Negritic peoples and Black Australoids similar to the Aboriginal Black people of Australia and parts of Asia, including India. I learned a lot today! The most important part of the conversation is that we are having one! Yes the skin may now be lightened but that’s because of the whitening as a result of colonialism. 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